Just reading comment from below - I hadn't realized that the new Supersede is effectively an integrated bracelet- but with that 16mm width of course it is.
The bracelet (and bezel!) both look fantastic in pics but integrated bracelets always freak me out - my ~15.5 to 16cm wrists generally doesn't work with 95% of integrated bracelets!
Oh - cheers re mortgage! And it's Tour de Transalp - with Kel and several more of us for next summer!
Reading Landon's comments from below it doesn't look like the new release will be supersede related - the tourbillon 1 was called 'mission tourbillon' so perhaps we're looking at a new tourbillon release. Hopefully something more sporty than dressy, with a smaller (37-39mm) case size and a non integrated bracelet.
Hmm, my guess would be a more refined, terrestrial themed version of the supersede GMT (I.e. loosing the diver design elements), I would hope for:
A fixed steel 24 hr bezel, or a broader rotating bezel with less prominent knurling and a coloured 24hr ceramic insert.
Non integrated bracelet design/standard lugs, so that any strap can be used. Or perhaps keep the integrated bracelet but introduce female end links so the lug-to-lug length is <50mm.
Cleaner dial without the power meter or the 12/24 hr indicator - perhaps with small seconds at 6 o'clock.
Colour matched date wheel on all dial variants
More interesting range of dial colours and textures, e.g brushed, sunburst, matte.
Seconds hand from the new supersede date.
That's probably an unreaslitic wish list but fingers crossed on the bezel and non-integrated bracelet - they would make a massive difference.
I like the thought put into this. Some great design elements at play. The coloured ceramic insert is a new one that I haven't seen others mention. The non-integrated bracelet route would put a new spin on something like Supersede, but then it would actually become an entirely different watch especially if it incorporated your desired fixed 24 hour bezel.
Supersede Date we went back to a colour match date wheel for the black and played with a few different dial textures. I really loved the result there and definitly feel they are validated suggestions for future watches.
Nice suggestions. Autark has such a beautiful case design and I agree a micro-adjustment buckle would be a nice match, however, a new bracelet design would also be needed to coordinate with the clasp width.
With the K1 calibre we are at the limit of what we can do with making a watch thinner. To go thinner price would actually increase as we would need something like K2, which is more costly to produce.
The only way to make a less expensive watch would be to make an entirely new centre rotor automatic 😬. Such an automatic would need to require less function/modularity to get the watch thinner. Regardless there would be compromises 😅.
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Sep 29, 2023
Supersede GMT Mark 2 - 24 hour hand instead of 12, big date, small seconds, new colour bezel
Thats a cool combo. Supersede Date just came out so likely not anything Supersede related. The Supersede lineage will likely continue into the future, but at this point a GMT version and Date version have been released so we have a few other things up our sleeve.
A sports watch with a bomb proof flying Tourbillion, with a small 4:30 date, a micro rotor, dive watch lume, with anodized partial skeleton dial , offered in a few different bright colors. Vaguely like the Skyline Defy Skeleton, but with tourbillon and better all around design and more features.
Oh! And it comes with your choice of leather, rubber or bracelet, or all 3 included on the first 20 orders. 😁
Well, you've got my attention. Few things happening on Oct 1: I'm paying off my mortgage, I'm registering for a 7 day stage road bike race around Italy .. but hearing about the new Horage release is what I'm thinking about the most 🤪🙄
Now.. is 'mission independence' a cryptic message 🤔.
I assume it's related to the recent visit to Andalusia 🙂
It may be a new watch or it may be also something linked to the Horage's future, hence 'independence'.
Or both 🙂
Curious for tomorrow's announcement!
Just reading comment from below - I hadn't realized that the new Supersede is effectively an integrated bracelet- but with that 16mm width of course it is.
The bracelet (and bezel!) both look fantastic in pics but integrated bracelets always freak me out - my ~15.5 to 16cm wrists generally doesn't work with 95% of integrated bracelets!
Oh - cheers re mortgage! And it's Tour de Transalp - with Kel and several more of us for next summer!
Hmm, my guess would be a more refined, terrestrial themed version of the supersede GMT (I.e. loosing the diver design elements), I would hope for:
A fixed steel 24 hr bezel, or a broader rotating bezel with less prominent knurling and a coloured 24hr ceramic insert.
Non integrated bracelet design/standard lugs, so that any strap can be used. Or perhaps keep the integrated bracelet but introduce female end links so the lug-to-lug length is <50mm.
Cleaner dial without the power meter or the 12/24 hr indicator - perhaps with small seconds at 6 o'clock.
Colour matched date wheel on all dial variants
More interesting range of dial colours and textures, e.g brushed, sunburst, matte.
Seconds hand from the new supersede date.
That's probably an unreaslitic wish list but fingers crossed on the bezel and non-integrated bracelet - they would make a massive difference.
37mm Autark with micro-adjustment buckle? With the option of a metal caseback, to make the watch cheaper/thinner.
Supersede GMT Mark 2 - 24 hour hand instead of 12, big date, small seconds, new colour bezel
I know!
A sports watch with a bomb proof flying Tourbillion, with a small 4:30 date, a micro rotor, dive watch lume, with anodized partial skeleton dial , offered in a few different bright colors. Vaguely like the Skyline Defy Skeleton, but with tourbillon and better all around design and more features.
Oh! And it comes with your choice of leather, rubber or bracelet, or all 3 included on the first 20 orders. 😁
Moonphase tourbillion in an all terrain rugged sports case.. 😁😁
Fitted for space travels...
The Horage book available for sale in your shop
A small seconds K2 based Supersede
Relaunch of the Supersede with 12/24 day/night indicator
all just guesses! :)